Nope not all anyhow. My son shoots a 270, and his coffee is blk. Stronger it is the better.Those that do probably put cream and sugar in their coffee.
Announcing the New Hammer HHT
- Thread starter Steve Davis
- Start date
"600y plus work on water buffalo" is something even a coward like I could get into. But then I would be too much of a chicken to fire the needed rifle.
I think I would run the 132 HHT. Larger wounding from less velocity.
Farleg
Hammer Time Executive member
GdaySomething about leaving the tip off an HHT and having essentially an HHT Shock Hammer...
I am like you. I think an HHT would better suit the short mag and magnum cartridges to ring out BC...
Rolling around my mind is Fordy saying he couldn't get HHT to fail and "The 308 guys gonna be really happy with 154 HHT"...
First world problems...
The tip off / out was another way tested
we also ground them off creating a flat also a semi rounded version
The tip in is the most consistent on various resistances & impact velocity but man it don’t hurt to leave it out
Don’t keep harping on about my failure to fail it’s a sore point still ticking though & testing we are going to do when Steve gets here that will show 2 things how good of a shot steve is & how much nerve he has
more on the later to come I guarantee, for now just drop the zeros off Steve’s numbers but shhh 
Gday bojo
I will come back to this in more detail as I thought this would play out & I’ve got no time until I get in transit
but for now could you post those old velocity brackets up on those combos of yours & I’ll try & get to it as it’s a priority imo for people like you , gl is a classic & some of my combos I’ve got no need for the hht as here you go I’ll say it once only
The combo I currently use is perfect (243 aka TANK ) in its application but if I was to step outside of its application I’d be using the 72hht I think
The old velocity brackets are extremely useful tool but they do not switch over to the hht as they have proven to show their own & somewhere I read Steve mentioned 2500 to 2000 & if he wouldn’t mind explaining that in more detail that would be good as that will also help with data
The 2000/2100 to around 2700 is one bracket that I’m tentatively putting up & I’d love to pick Pickens brain on what his thoughts are in this impact range to work these out with more certainty
As the more data in the better data out & that’s good for us all
Got to run fellas
No proof read
Cheers
Don't take what I said as being negative about the HHTs. They are a wonderful and MUCH improved pill to be sure. Their performance, wound cavity quality at lower velocities are all wonderful!
If I owned a 308/7mm08,or similar sized cartridge - I'd shoot nothing but HHTs. I do have a 338 Sherman, and will probably try them in it when they come out.
Kneedeep....this one's for you
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My pet loads generally hit with a bucketful of "band-aids" traveling around 3700+@ impact
. At my impact velocities I don't need much wounding improvement.
For those with impacts around 2000-2500+ish, the HHTs will give huge wounding improvements. Look at Farleg's tables. It's plain as day.
One of Farleg's complaints is that they messed up his traditional velocity brackets
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My bet is we/he'll put out new velocity brackets (or just one huge one) for the new bullets. Their good velocity/performance window is Enormous. What an improvement!
If I owned a 308/7mm08,or similar sized cartridge - I'd shoot nothing but HHTs. I do have a 338 Sherman, and will probably try them in it when they come out.
Kneedeep....this one's for you
.My pet loads generally hit with a bucketful of "band-aids" traveling around 3700+@ impact
. At my impact velocities I don't need much wounding improvement. For those with impacts around 2000-2500+ish, the HHTs will give huge wounding improvements. Look at Farleg's tables. It's plain as day
.One of Farleg's complaints is that they messed up his traditional velocity brackets
.My bet is we/he'll put out new velocity brackets (or just one huge one) for the new bullets. Their good velocity/performance window is Enormous. What an improvement!
Some experiences are meant to be at close range for full flavor.Don’t keep harping on about my failure to fail it’s a sore point still ticking though & testing we are going to do when Steve gets here that will show 2 things how good of a shot steve is & how much nerve he has
BFD
Hammer Time Executive member
{Taking GL off the hater list}Don't take what I said as being negative about the HHTs. They are a wonderful and MUCH improved pill to be sure. Their performance, wound cavity quality at lower velocities are all wonderful!
If I owned a 308/7mm08,or similar sized cartridge - I'd shoot nothing but HHTs. I do have a 338 Sherman, and will probably try them in it when they come out.
Kneedeep....this one's for you
My pet loads generally hit with a bucketful of "band-aids" traveling around 3700+@ impact
For those with impacts around 2000-2500+ish, the HHTs will give huge wounding improvements. Look at Farleg's tables. It's plain as day
One of Farleg's complaints is that they messed up his traditional velocity brackets
My bet is we/he'll put out new velocity brackets (or just one huge one) for the new bullets. Their good velocity/performance window is Enormous. What an improvement!
1-.270TH rocks!
2-I drink STRONG black coffee
3-Sasquatch size so not even toes are skinny
Just ordered .308 154HHT for 300WSM EVEN though there were no .277 offerings.
Yes George, I will post up results!
Thank you Steve for discount!
2-I drink STRONG black coffee
3-Sasquatch size so not even toes are skinny
Just ordered .308 154HHT for 300WSM EVEN though there were no .277 offerings.
Yes George, I will post up results!Thank you Steve for discount!
joe16
Hammer Time Executive member
Joe has 100 154s & 100 163s on the way.@Muddy,
Knew I could count on you
(Unlike joe16......
All right let's get this 270 stuff out of the way. When I got out of the Army the first rifle I bought was a mod 700 30-06. the second rifle I bought Within 6 months was a 270 Ruger, it kicked as hard as the 30 06. So I figured why not have the frontal diameter and shoot a heavier bullet for the pain that I was receiving from this Ruger. I just never looked back. That's me that's all, bullets too skinny, rifle kicked too hard
As far as coffee goes. I love all types, Cuban espresso, Cappuccinos, black, light and sweet. In order of preference would be.
Light and sweet
Cuban espresso (liquid cocaine)
Black
Cappuccino
30 cals rule.
@joe16: that was your grandpa's .270! Its a brave new world out there!! Fast twist, longer barrel, freebore changes the old girl to new levels never seen before!! Wouldn't you take a 156HH @3200 fps? It doesn't even require a man-bun!!!
BTW spent a lot of time in France on business and Holy Cow the Expresso in morning would trip a heart monitor!!. No wonder there were short fuses in meetings!!
I can't wait to see a new heavy for it, maybe someday! @Steve Davis HINT!!!
Its a brave new world out there!! Fast twist, longer barrel, freebore changes the old girl to new levels never seen before!! Wouldn't you take a 156HH @3200 fps? It doesn't even require a man-bun!!!BTW spent a lot of time in France on business and Holy Cow the Expresso in morning would trip a heart monitor!!. No wonder there were short fuses in meetings!!
I can't wait to see a new heavy for it, maybe someday! @Steve Davis HINT!!!You guys are all a bunch of tough guys compared to me. When I go to a restaurant, I order half hot water and half coffee. At the 7-eleven I add a couple pieces of ice to get it to my drinking temp. And don't get me on whisky.... that stuff is like dirt. I go for Boones Farm apple wine.
I just ordered some 95g HHT's for my 24" barreled 25-06, I'll let you know after I work up the load. I'm getting almost the exact same velocity with 90g AH as you are, what powder are you using? I tried 3 different powders and settled on RL26.
I’m in the same velocity range with both IMR7828sc and Magpro.
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Bojo34
Active member
Qualification understood GL.....never took your post as negative towards the new pill at all and hope I didn't come across as implying you did. I share everyone's excitement over the new offering and will certainly switch once HH inventory is depleted, just weighing if the uptick in performance for my combos justifies the immediate switch. Your comment above spot on.....I'll be switching over my 7x57/120HH combo, but in the magnums where I'm 2700ish+ at all MY ranges, not feeling compelled to swap immediately, but open to persuasion..... look forward to Farleg comments on velo brackets.Don't take what I said as being negative about the HHTs. They are a wonderful and MUCH improved pill to be sure. Their performance, wound cavity quality at lower velocities are all wonderful!
If I owned a 308/7mm08,or similar sized cartridge - I'd shoot nothing but HHTs. I do have a 338 Sherman, and will probably try them in it when they come out.
Kneedeep....this one's for you
My pet loads generally hit with a bucketful of "band-aids" traveling around 3700+@ impact
For those with impacts around 2000-2500+ish, the HHTs will give huge wounding improvements. Look at Farleg's tables. It's plain as day
One of Farleg's complaints is that they messed up his traditional velocity brackets
My bet is we/he'll put out new velocity brackets (or just one huge one) for the new bullets. Their good velocity/performance window is Enormous. What an improvement!